grief and loss (w/ Jake Malpocker)

A week ago, I got a text from my friend Jake.

He wondered if he could be on my podcast to discuss the topic of grief and loss. I said yes. And then promptly wondered how the f*ck I was going to interview my friend about grief and loss, particularly because he lost his dad just two months ago.

I think this was one of the most real and raw conversations I’ve ever actually had, let alone recorded for the world to hear.

I’m not going to summarize it here as I normally do… because this conversation was as much about the content as it was creating a space for two people to process through a topic that we (as a society) don’t talk about much.

I’d encourage you to make some time and create room in your heart, and just listen.

And Jake, thank you, from the bottom of my heart for being who you are and sharing yourself so kindly and courageously. It’s a privilege to call you my friend.

Here are links to the Duruflé Requiem, as well as the Fauré Requiem, which you may find helpful.

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

Through the unknown, unremembered gate
When the last of earth left to discover
Is that which was the beginning;
At the source of the longest river
The voice of the hidden waterfall
And the children in the apple-tree
Not known, because not looked for
But heard, half-heard, in the stillness
Between two waves of the sea.

Quick now, here, now, always—
A condition of complete simplicity
(Costing not less than everything)
And all shall be well and
All manner of thing shall be well
When the tongues of flames are in-folded
Into the crowned knot of fire
And the fire and the rose are one.

T.S. Eliot, “The Four Quartets”

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